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Some Smart Lock features missing for me

rojaso — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:22:13 GMT

I have the T2 Ultra with Android 5.1.1 - I have enabled Smart Lock under Trusted Agents, I have made it recognize my face a few times, it is ON but I fail to see Smart Lock under Settings -> Screen lock.

I have used Face Unlock on many earlier phones so I know what I am doing. I have the latest Google Play Services 8.3.01 and latest everything.

Not only does Face unlock not appear as an option, but I cannot even enable Trusted Voices as the only option I have under 'Ok Google' is 'From the Google App' - I miss being able to say Ok Google from any screen

Does this have anything to do with protection with myXperia ??

Re: Some Smart Lock features missing for me

Uliwooly — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:27:18 GMT

@rojaso

The Xperia T2 Ultra as other mid end and low end phones lack multiple things, such as OK google from any screen, multiple users, etc.

Re: Some Smart Lock features missing for me

rojaso — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 18:54:33 GMT

That is insane, to remove an OS's features just because it is low end ?? How low is that ?

This is not part of their featureset, it is Google's.

Naah I dont think Sony or any other maker worth their salt would do this.

To eclipse certain customer crapware would be understandable but to purposely remove it is asking for trouble.

I have to discard this phone in a hurry now.

Re: Some Smart Lock features missing for me

Uliwooly — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 19:00:37 GMT

@rojaso

The hardware can't handle so much and still be functional, I have a T2 Ultra as well as other Xperias, and of course you see the difference between a flagship and a mid/low end phone, but the phone doesn't have enough RAM to handle multiple accounts, as it is right now, if you play a game and you try to switch to other apps, it will reset the game, and lag in the process, why? bc it doesn't have enough free RAM, you could say, well I can use a task killer? no, that won't solve the issue.

Re: Some Smart Lock features missing for me

rojaso — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 19:14:21 GMT

What you say makes sense now, I had not regarded that as a shortcoming for this phone, thought I was getting a good deal on a nice-sized phone. I had a cheaper Asus PadphoneX earlier, and a dell (all under 200) and all of them were able to do all Google's Smart Security stuff. This stinks. Goddamn huge phone with miserable memory. No more Sony for me.

I never said kill it using Task Mgr was a solution, there should either have been an option for adding more mem or letting the user decide it is to be disabled as it is a memory hog. I have spent days on figuring out this BS way they have implemented the OS.

Re: Some Smart Lock features missing for me

Uliwooly — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 19:17:32 GMT

@rojaso

Don't despair, there's always a way around things, you could use a custom ROM instead

http://forum.xda-developers.com/t2-ultra

Re: Some Smart Lock features missing for me

rojaso — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:38:26 GMT

Funnily enough, I checked on a friend's 1+2 for this scenario and it didnt work for him either. And it has 4G. So doubt it is a memory issue.

Re: Some Smart Lock features missing for me

Uliwooly — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:51:29 GMT

@rojaso

What exactly did you checked?

Re: Some Smart Lock features missing for me

Uliwooly — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:52:10 GMT

http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-T2-Ultra/lollipop-multiple-user-option-is-not-available/m-p/980230/highlight/true#M3171

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Re: lollipop multiple user option is not available

‎2015-05-19 04:58 AM

The reason for that multi user functionality has not been implemented is the amount of RAM (1GB) so i'm afraid this feature is not supported on this phone.

Re: Some Smart Lock features missing for me

rojaso — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 23:07:03 GMT

Sorry, I mean a OnePlus2 phone, I tried the same settings, even on that the Face thingy wouldnt appear on Screen Lock after going through the same routine

Re: Some Smart Lock features missing for me

rojaso — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 23:09:14 GMT

So I take it you added that link to indicate this was a feature suppressed due to 1GB RAM.

Thats why I responded with the results of my friend's phone actions - that it was the same. Maybe something due to Android updates that is causing this ?

Re: Some Smart Lock features missing for me

rojaso — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 23:22:33 GMT

Same thing happened on Moto X, 5.1/2G

Re: Some Smart Lock features missing for me

Uliwooly — Mon, 07 Dec 2015 23:42:24 GMT

@rojaso

App developers have grown lazier, now apps take a huge part of the internal storage and use quite a bit of RAM